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| QUOTE (kirant) | | However, wasting tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars on keeping a guy who's never going to get out of jail ever just for the sentimentality of keeping him alive is perfectly alright? |
Yes as a matter of fact it is. Keeping another human being alive is like saving a human. I dont care what they did, it is wrong to kill for any reason.
| QUOTE (kirant) | | No. Those who have no chance of being reconstructed into a productive member of society do, however. |
How do you know that these people can not be rehabilitated? If there is even a chance to rehabilitate these people into a productive member of society should we not take it, or should we just give up on them.
| QUOTE (kirant) | | Because the government is to represent the well being of the people in the method deemed best. As of right now, that is a democracy. If it is in the people's best interest to have a person removed from existance, with the backing of a court decision, then I believe that it is in the best interest of the country, as the role of a judge and jury is to best determine the verdict of the case and the punishment of the accused, if he or she is guilty. |
You act as though if these people arent killed their aloud to be let onto the street. You seem to be leaving out the fact that they are removed from society in large cement hell.
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| QUOTE (kirant) | | However, wasting tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars on keeping a guy who's never going to get out of jail ever just for the sentimentality of keeping him alive is perfectly alright? |
Yes as a matter of fact it is. Keeping another human being alive is like saving a human. I dont care what they did, it is wrong to kill for any reason.
| QUOTE (kirant) | | No. Those who have no chance of being reconstructed into a productive member of society do, however. |
How do you know that these people can not be rehabilitated? If there is even a chance to rehabilitate these people into a productive member of society should we not take it, or should we just give up on them.
| QUOTE (kirant) | | Because the government is to represent the well being of the people in the method deemed best. As of right now, that is a democracy. If it is in the people's best interest to have a person removed from existance, with the backing of a court decision, then I believe that it is in the best interest of the country, as the role of a judge and jury is to best determine the verdict of the case and the punishment of the accused, if he or she is guilty. |
You act as though if these people arent killed their aloud to be let onto the street. You seem to be leaving out the fact that they are removed from society in large cement hell.
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9/27/2009 3:23:42 PM
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Is Steven Harper the anorexic guy or the big guy with the moustache?
KIRANT! Come back to Fanfics :>
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Is Steven Harper the anorexic guy or the big guy with the moustache?
KIRANT! Come back to Fanfics :>
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9/27/2009 5:10:47 PM
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Insecto: Bad call. VERY bad call. By not executing some of the criminals that pose a threat to society, the nation, and the international community, we're putting countless lives at risk. Terrorism, serial killers, you name it.
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Insecto: Bad call. VERY bad call. By not executing some of the criminals that pose a threat to society, the nation, and the international community, we're putting countless lives at risk. Terrorism, serial killers, you name it.
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9/27/2009 6:08:03 PM
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@ghostchild
That's terrible. And by that logic, maybe we should have you put on death row as well? Condemning a man to death is just as bad as committing murder. Killing people doesn't benefit society, no matter who you're killing. Death only causes more grief and then more death. Would you be willing to put the happiness of all humanity on hold just so people like you can satisfy their blood-lust? Punish them and give them a second chance. It always works like that and should always work like that. Forgiveness is a powerful tool, but people like you seem to lack it and so you remain fumbling in your toolbox for that forgiveness but only find nooses and guillotines. Kill one to save a thousand? How about kill none, save a thousand and one with that last one locked up in a cell until their life expires? That's no death penalty - that's confinement. We all die someday, what gives you the right to play God and decide which day that is?
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That's terrible. And by that logic, maybe we should have you put on death row as well? Condemning a man to death is just as bad as committing murder. Killing people doesn't benefit society, no matter who you're killing. Death only causes more grief and then more death. Would you be willing to put the happiness of all humanity on hold just so people like you can satisfy their blood-lust? Punish them and give them a second chance. It always works like that and should always work like that. Forgiveness is a powerful tool, but people like you seem to lack it and so you remain fumbling in your toolbox for that forgiveness but only find nooses and guillotines. Kill one to save a thousand? How about kill none, save a thousand and one with that last one locked up in a cell until their life expires? That's no death penalty - that's confinement. We all die someday, what gives you the right to play God and decide which day that is?
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9/27/2009 7:34:49 PM
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DonkeyDude: You are absolutely unbelieveable. Once again, you're protecting the criminals. How typical. By not killing these ciminals, you risk the threat of them breaking out of prison, or threatening the population if they get loose, or start plotting. Congratulations. You're putting criminals, before society.
Hmm, putting me on death row, and the millions of other people who condone it. Yah, nice tactic.
I don't care about "second chances", you killed someone, you killed someone.(Although there are exceptions) It's you're fault.
I'm not playing God. And do you know why? Because he doesn't exist!
"Would you be willing to put the happiness of all humanity on hold just so people like you can satisfy their blood-lust?"
No. I'm putting the happiness of humanity before the rights of cold blooded killers.
Fine. Go ahead and risk the lives of people, don't execute those who deserve it, and prevent justice from taking place. You truly know NOTHING about the human impact of what those people cause.
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DonkeyDude: You are absolutely unbelieveable. Once again, you're protecting the criminals. How typical. By not killing these ciminals, you risk the threat of them breaking out of prison, or threatening the population if they get loose, or start plotting. Congratulations. You're putting criminals, before society.
Hmm, putting me on death row, and the millions of other people who condone it. Yah, nice tactic.
I don't care about "second chances", you killed someone, you killed someone.(Although there are exceptions) It's you're fault.
I'm not playing God. And do you know why? Because he doesn't exist!
"Would you be willing to put the happiness of all humanity on hold just so people like you can satisfy their blood-lust?"
No. I'm putting the happiness of humanity before the rights of cold blooded killers.
Fine. Go ahead and risk the lives of people, don't execute those who deserve it, and prevent justice from taking place. You truly know NOTHING about the human impact of what those people cause.
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9/27/2009 7:46:52 PM
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| QUOTE (Insecto) | | it is wrong to kill for any reason. |
So you are recalling your entire pro-abortion arguement? 
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| QUOTE (Insecto) | | it is wrong to kill for any reason. |
So you are recalling your entire pro-abortion arguement?
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Yes as a matter of fact it is. Keeping another human being alive is like saving a human. I dont care what they did, it is wrong to kill for any reason.
That's a personal choice. This is something I can't aruge. Your opinion is your opinion.
How do you know that these people can not be rehabilitated? If there is even a chance to rehabilitate these people into a productive member of society should we not take it, or should we just give up on them.
I suggest you refer to my older arguements.
You act as though if these people arent killed their aloud to be let onto the street. You seem to be leaving out the fact that they are removed from society in large cement hell
I think that some people do deserve to come out if they have proven it
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Yes as a matter of fact it is. Keeping another human being alive is like saving a human. I dont care what they did, it is wrong to kill for any reason.
That's a personal choice. This is something I can't aruge. Your opinion is your opinion.
How do you know that these people can not be rehabilitated? If there is even a chance to rehabilitate these people into a productive member of society should we not take it, or should we just give up on them.
I suggest you refer to my older arguements.
You act as though if these people arent killed their aloud to be let onto the street. You seem to be leaving out the fact that they are removed from society in large cement hell
I think that some people do deserve to come out if they have proven it
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9/27/2009 8:00:29 PM
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You never cease to amuse me. I find it odd that in most cases you exhibit extremely liberal points of view - points I agree on. However, when it comes to a matter of (pardon the pun) life or death, you seem to display excessively conservative views.
What I've noticed is that your incessant blinded statements only reveal the true cold-blooded nature of your personality, and I have learned that you are certainly not someone I would want to associate with. Truly, your hatred towards those who could possibly redeem themselves is horrendous and makes you just as bad as them. In all honesty, ghostchild, your comments disgust me.
We all make mistakes. It is because of these mistakes that we all deserve death. You are no better than a murderer or a rapist as much as I am. All humans are equal. All deserve a second chance, even you. And so I ask you this: please re-evaluate your ideas on this matter. That's it. No catch, no "or else". Just a re-evaluation. If you still find the death penalty necessary after a few nights of considering my points, then you are a lost cause. I will have nothing more to do with your barbaric ideologies.
Here's something for you to consider along with everything else I've stated: Everybody - and I mean everybody dies. Who are you to say when that is? You have no right. You are not superior to anybody on this planet. Everybody is equal. And if you think not, then that makes you prejudiced, that makes you judgmental and it makes you ignorant and arrogant.
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You never cease to amuse me. I find it odd that in most cases you exhibit extremely liberal points of view - points I agree on. However, when it comes to a matter of (pardon the pun) life or death, you seem to display excessively conservative views.
What I've noticed is that your incessant blinded statements only reveal the true cold-blooded nature of your personality, and I have learned that you are certainly not someone I would want to associate with. Truly, your hatred towards those who could possibly redeem themselves is horrendous and makes you just as bad as them. In all honesty, ghostchild, your comments disgust me.
We all make mistakes. It is because of these mistakes that we all deserve death. You are no better than a murderer or a rapist as much as I am. All humans are equal. All deserve a second chance, even you. And so I ask you this: please re-evaluate your ideas on this matter. That's it. No catch, no "or else". Just a re-evaluation. If you still find the death penalty necessary after a few nights of considering my points, then you are a lost cause. I will have nothing more to do with your barbaric ideologies.
Here's something for you to consider along with everything else I've stated: Everybody - and I mean everybody dies. Who are you to say when that is? You have no right. You are not superior to anybody on this planet. Everybody is equal. And if you think not, then that makes you prejudiced, that makes you judgmental and it makes you ignorant and arrogant.
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Ghostchild: Please keep God's existence out of this..... we should have at least one topic where God isn't involved....
Killing isn't right, no matter what the reason is. Abortion is another matter so don't bring that in this either, We're specifically talking about putting prisoners to death.
Humans are not aloud to decide who lives and who dies. Give any reason why you believe this is wrong, however, death is not the sole answer. Serial rapists, killers, etc.. suffer from severe mental disorders...therefore they should be sent to an asylum instead (What other reason would they have for doing such things?) That doesn't mean you are to kill them.
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Ghostchild: Please keep God's existence out of this..... we should have at least one topic where God isn't involved....
Killing isn't right, no matter what the reason is. Abortion is another matter so don't bring that in this either, We're specifically talking about putting prisoners to death.
Humans are not aloud to decide who lives and who dies. Give any reason why you believe this is wrong, however, death is not the sole answer. Serial rapists, killers, etc.. suffer from severe mental disorders...therefore they should be sent to an asylum instead (What other reason would they have for doing such things?) That doesn't mean you are to kill them.
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9/27/2009 8:17:51 PM
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Kirant- Still, these people deserve to live their life. We shouldn't kill someone just because it is a hassle to keep them around. That is like abandoning your 4-year-old child because you just find it too difficult to take care of them.
Ghostchild- Guards are there for a reason. There is barley ever a prison break so I don't think we should even worry about that.
Also, even though God doesn't exist, you are still messing with something that humans shouldn't mess with. It isn't for anyone to decide when someone is to die.
Whitedragon- At Least the man who is being sentenced to death already has a family and has established a life of some sort compared to the fetus that doesn't understand anything and doesn't even have a life established. In my opinion, it is two different things.
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Kirant- Still, these people deserve to live their life. We shouldn't kill someone just because it is a hassle to keep them around. That is like abandoning your 4-year-old child because you just find it too difficult to take care of them.
Ghostchild- Guards are there for a reason. There is barley ever a prison break so I don't think we should even worry about that.
Also, even though God doesn't exist, you are still messing with something that humans shouldn't mess with. It isn't for anyone to decide when someone is to die.
Whitedragon- At Least the man who is being sentenced to death already has a family and has established a life of some sort compared to the fetus that doesn't understand anything and doesn't even have a life established. In my opinion, it is two different things.
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9/27/2009 8:19:18 PM
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Insecto: Bad call. VERY bad call. By not executing some of the criminals that pose a threat to society, the nation, and the international community, we're putting countless lives at risk. Terrorism, serial killers, you name it. |
How exactly does not killing a killer pose a threat to society? These criminials will be removed from the general public and society. In whihc case hwo can they be a threat.
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Insecto: Bad call. VERY bad call. By not executing some of the criminals that pose a threat to society, the nation, and the international community, we're putting countless lives at risk. Terrorism, serial killers, you name it. |
How exactly does not killing a killer pose a threat to society? These criminials will be removed from the general public and society. In whihc case hwo can they be a threat.
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9/27/2009 9:41:37 PM
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | DonkeyDude: You are absolutely unbelieveable. Once again, you're protecting the criminals. How typical. By not killing these ciminals, you risk the threat of them breaking out of prison, or threatening the population if they get loose, or start plotting. Congratulations. You're putting criminals, before society. |
This is so sad. Its like you simply dont have any compasion. First off, why cant donkey dude defend criminials? Second off, how exactly is putting criminials in a cement hole in the ground risking society? You act as though if they dont die we let em on the streets with a knife, a Grand and a passport. What do breakouts happen regularly that there might aswell be an escalator at the wall with the guards saying have a nice time as they run off? No. Its a high security concrete box.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Hmm, putting me on death row, and the millions of other people who condone it. Yah, nice tactic |
And yet your judging him even though there are many others who agree with him. Yah nice tactic.
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*cough* republican *cough* sorry still getting over my cold.
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | DonkeyDude: You are absolutely unbelieveable. Once again, you're protecting the criminals. How typical. By not killing these ciminals, you risk the threat of them breaking out of prison, or threatening the population if they get loose, or start plotting. Congratulations. You're putting criminals, before society. |
This is so sad. Its like you simply dont have any compasion. First off, why cant donkey dude defend criminials? Second off, how exactly is putting criminials in a cement hole in the ground risking society? You act as though if they dont die we let em on the streets with a knife, a Grand and a passport. What do breakouts happen regularly that there might aswell be an escalator at the wall with the guards saying have a nice time as they run off? No. Its a high security concrete box.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Hmm, putting me on death row, and the millions of other people who condone it. Yah, nice tactic |
And yet your judging him even though there are many others who agree with him. Yah nice tactic.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | I don't care about "second chances", you killed someone, you killed someone.(Although there are exceptions) It's you're fault.
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*cough* republican *cough* sorry still getting over my cold.
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9/27/2009 9:43:05 PM
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | No. I'm putting the happiness of humanity before the rights of cold blooded killers. |
Yes because obviously they enjoy it whenever a criminial gets killed. The gov't should tape every exicution and people could watch it like the super bowl.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Fine. Go ahead and risk the lives of people, don't execute those who deserve it, and prevent justice from taking place. You truly know NOTHING about the human impact of what those people cause. |
So your judging donkeydude for risking human lives which he isnt, not wanting to execute those who deserve it when they dont, and preventing justice from happening, which he is actually doing. Now yes, I agree they have done horrible things, but how will killing them bring justice? How will that ease the impact? How will that undo what is done? All I see is you being a hypocrite, not justice. Mods please post this.
Mods please post this.
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | No. I'm putting the happiness of humanity before the rights of cold blooded killers. |
Yes because obviously they enjoy it whenever a criminial gets killed. The gov't should tape every exicution and people could watch it like the super bowl.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Fine. Go ahead and risk the lives of people, don't execute those who deserve it, and prevent justice from taking place. You truly know NOTHING about the human impact of what those people cause. |
So your judging donkeydude for risking human lives which he isnt, not wanting to execute those who deserve it when they dont, and preventing justice from happening, which he is actually doing. Now yes, I agree they have done horrible things, but how will killing them bring justice? How will that ease the impact? How will that undo what is done? All I see is you being a hypocrite, not justice. Mods please post this.
Mods please post this.
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9/28/2009 8:20:55 PM
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Insecto:
Point # 1: They are still alive aren't they? What happens if they do something, like break out of prison?
Point # 2: Yes I do! So for the love of God, stop telling me I don't! You don't know me! That get my point across? As long as they're alive, I consider them to be a threat.
WELCOME TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEMS. Bad people GET out! Phillip Garrido, for example, sexually assaulted a woman, he was supposed to stay in prison a LONG time, and guess what? He "fell through the cracks"! He got out of prison! It happens! People still can escape. Hmm, two terrorists, Al Megrahi, and the Libyian leader, (I forget his name), are free. Al Megrahi got out on "compassionate grounds". After he allegedly blew up Pan Am Flight 103. 270 casualites. The libyian leader came to the States-A TERRORIST came to the States.
And you think the justice systems don't have there flaws.
Point # 3: And you're judging ME, when There are a lot of other people who agree with me.
Point # 4: DON'T CALL ME A REPUBLICAN! EVER!
Point # 5: Unbelieveable.
Point # 6: I believe he's risking lives. AND justice. I think it will. You kill them, we kill you. And again with the hypocrite statement. That all you got?
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Insecto:
Point # 1: They are still alive aren't they? What happens if they do something, like break out of prison?
Point # 2: Yes I do! So for the love of God, stop telling me I don't! You don't know me! That get my point across? As long as they're alive, I consider them to be a threat.
WELCOME TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEMS. Bad people GET out! Phillip Garrido, for example, sexually assaulted a woman, he was supposed to stay in prison a LONG time, and guess what? He "fell through the cracks"! He got out of prison! It happens! People still can escape. Hmm, two terrorists, Al Megrahi, and the Libyian leader, (I forget his name), are free. Al Megrahi got out on "compassionate grounds". After he allegedly blew up Pan Am Flight 103. 270 casualites. The libyian leader came to the States-A TERRORIST came to the States.
And you think the justice systems don't have there flaws.
Point # 3: And you're judging ME, when There are a lot of other people who agree with me.
Point # 4: DON'T CALL ME A REPUBLICAN! EVER!
Point # 5: Unbelieveable.
Point # 6: I believe he's risking lives. AND justice. I think it will. You kill them, we kill you. And again with the hypocrite statement. That all you got?
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sorry it took so long to respond ghostchild, Ive been kinda busy. lets get to it.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | They are still alive aren't they? What happens if they do something, like break out of prison? |
Yes they are still alive. Well see that is a risk we run. Its just something that happens. Luckily it doesnt happen that often. As I said your acting as though we let them out with a knife, a G and a passport.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | And you think the justice systems don't have there flaws. |
ghostchild, when did I say that the justice system has no flaws? I think that the Canadian justice system has many flaws, however that doesnt mean that I dont like everything the government does.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | And you're judging ME, when There are a lot of other people who agree with me. |
ghostchild, Im not judging you. Nor am I judging anyone who agrees with you, (I'm sorta a live and let live guy). I try not to judge anyone.
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sorry it took so long to respond ghostchild, Ive been kinda busy. lets get to it.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | They are still alive aren't they? What happens if they do something, like break out of prison? |
Yes they are still alive. Well see that is a risk we run. Its just something that happens. Luckily it doesnt happen that often. As I said your acting as though we let them out with a knife, a G and a passport.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | And you think the justice systems don't have there flaws. |
ghostchild, when did I say that the justice system has no flaws? I think that the Canadian justice system has many flaws, however that doesnt mean that I dont like everything the government does.
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | And you're judging ME, when There are a lot of other people who agree with me. |
ghostchild, Im not judging you. Nor am I judging anyone who agrees with you, (I'm sorta a live and let live guy). I try not to judge anyone.
Mods please post this.
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | DON'T CALL ME A REPUBLICAN! EVER! |
... REPUBLICAN sorry I had too. =D
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Unbelieveable. |
Yes, yes I am. =)
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | I believe he's risking lives. AND justice. I think it will. You kill them, we kill you. And again with the hypocrite statement. That all you got? |
ghostchild-we call you a hypocrite because you are a hypocrite. You seek to kill those who seek to kill. Your blood thirsty for the blood of the bloodthristy. You posses the anger and resentment that these criminials have. I dont think it is right to kill, I dont think its right for us to kill those who kill, (which includes you).
Yes they have killed, however that doesnt mean we have to do what they did, we can not let them turn us into the monsters that they are.
yms, please post.
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| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | DON'T CALL ME A REPUBLICAN! EVER! |
... REPUBLICAN sorry I had too. =D
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | Unbelieveable. |
Yes, yes I am. =)
| QUOTE (ghostchild) | | I believe he's risking lives. AND justice. I think it will. You kill them, we kill you. And again with the hypocrite statement. That all you got? |
ghostchild-we call you a hypocrite because you are a hypocrite. You seek to kill those who seek to kill. Your blood thirsty for the blood of the bloodthristy. You posses the anger and resentment that these criminials have. I dont think it is right to kill, I dont think its right for us to kill those who kill, (which includes you).
Yes they have killed, however that doesnt mean we have to do what they did, we can not let them turn us into the monsters that they are.
yms, please post.
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ghostchild: You do realize that the justice system is flawed in the other way as well, don't you? There have been plenty of wrongful convinctions, far more than the number of people who have escaped from prison. Do you want innocent people to be executed any more than we want criminals 'falling through the cracks' or so to say?
whitedragon: That argument doesn't work against people who don't consider a fetus and a grown human being to be the same, so it's not relevant.
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ghostchild: You do realize that the justice system is flawed in the other way as well, don't you? There have been plenty of wrongful convinctions, far more than the number of people who have escaped from prison. Do you want innocent people to be executed any more than we want criminals 'falling through the cracks' or so to say?
whitedragon: That argument doesn't work against people who don't consider a fetus and a grown human being to be the same, so it's not relevant.
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10/3/2009 11:00:09 AM
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To be honest, I think some people NEED the death penalty. Think about it, if someone like Al Capone was sent death row, far less people would have died because he eventually got out of jail and killed hundreds!
I don't think it's inhumane in any way, unless it happened to be an inocent person. The guy chose to kill, and in return, he/she should be put in his/her victims shoes!
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To be honest, I think some people NEED the death penalty. Think about it, if someone like Al Capone was sent death row, far less people would have died because he eventually got out of jail and killed hundreds!
I don't think it's inhumane in any way, unless it happened to be an inocent person. The guy chose to kill, and in return, he/she should be put in his/her victims shoes!
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posted:
10/3/2009 6:14:15 PM
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Mayhem
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@snake_boy99
No. Killing is wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right. End of story.
What you're describing is retribution, vengeance and bloodlust. All of which are wrong.
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@snake_boy99
No. Killing is wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right. End of story.
What you're describing is retribution, vengeance and bloodlust. All of which are wrong.
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10/3/2009 8:12:24 PM
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Mayhem
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To argue with that, the world would have less criminals= less murders= a better world!
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To argue with that, the world would have less criminals= less murders= a better world!
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