YTV.com - Boards - Music - General - Passon Pit? - Messages http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-passon-pit.aspx YTV.com - Boards - Music - General - Passon Pit? - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:54:25 GMT Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:54:25 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from belami - First off, you directly claimed that you hadn't heard of Owl City before he was mainstream. So likely you haven't heard anything except for "Fireflies". You're comparing it to "Such Great Heights" which may have a very slight synth line, yet they're absolutely nothing alike. That's like saying every single electronic artist out there has copied each other. So apparently The Postal Service ripped-off The Shins (who formed in 1997). But I don't see you complaining that TPS copied them.
We live in a decade at which point literally everything's been done before. When a project like Owl City is created that is different from mainstream, there's always going to be someone that's going to push others' beliefs by constantly trying (and failing) to prove that they sound like someone else, even if they sound absolutely nothing alike.
I'm actually quite offended by these comparisons for somewhat personal reasons. I did in fact used to be a TPS fan (hence I WOULD see any similarities; if there were any). While I was a fan, I was going through a state of depression that TPS only fueled. In 2007 I found Owl City which then saved me from that same depression. Owl City and TPS' music contain COMPLETELY different meanings. Owl City's music conveys a sense of optimism and positivity while TPS' music conveys they exact opposite.]]> Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:54:25 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from 31kat
Kay, if you listened to ethier of them in depth, you'd clearly realize that the two sound nothing alike, since you're not a fan of ethier, you wouldn't be able to make out the differences easily. They may both be artists of the same genre, but they're not alike.

Kay, look. I'm sure Adam would've given those answers to get the reporter people to stop annoying him with TPS related questions. Whoever came up with that comparrsion is so wrong, TPS doesn't use synth as much in their songs, when with Owl City, the synth is used a lot.

It appears to me that you haven't heard any other Owl City songs other than Fireflies, I'd like to point out that you can't judge an artist from only hearing one song, and from what the press has said.

Also, I'd like to let you know that there are a few indie artists/bands that I listen to who only have a few hundred fans. These unknown artists really like having fans who strongly support them, these fans help them get noticed, and that's very important to them, and having strong fans means alot to any artist, because these fans are legit, and will still support an artist no matter what, anyone would like having a fan like that.]]> Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:37:40 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from mrpokey Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:34:31 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from Okay, let me reword that. What I clearly meant was, the mainstream had not heard of him prior to Ocean Eyes and the release of "Fireflies". So most people, other than his early fans, have NOT heard of him before that, myself included. I listen to quite a few indie artists, so I'm used to nobody having heard of my favourite artists (other than the very obviously established fanbase), and there is no need to get offended by that, jeez. The more well known an artist gets, the more criticism they will draw because they are reaching a wider audience. The comments started 2 years later, because that's when everybody and their mom finally heard the blasted song (as opposed to just the fans.)

Fine, I'm not going to bother to argue over the similarities because you obviously aren't going to have any of it and/or ignore whatever argument I have to say. However even Adam admits he can see the similarity:
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It’s kind of ironic, looking back at it, because a lot of people do relate the two projects. I can totally see it now, but I didn’t really then, for what it’s worth.

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I think [Give Up] left everyone asking, “What are they going to do next?” Since no one has done anything quite like it, it’s almost like everyone is naturally saying this is the next step — maybe that’s me, maybe that’s this record."


You might not realise this, by your fanaticism is very off putting towards Owl City. I am saying this as someone who has definitely been there and done it at your age (for other artists obviously). Over zealous fans are very often a source of embarrassment for the sensible ones and the artists themselves. If the vocal fanbase is annoying, then people on the receiving end will associate that negative feeling with their the artist and could end up hating by association. This applies to all fanbases and fandoms.]]> Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:17:23 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from 31kat Belami - FIRST OFF ALL do not say "hardly anyone has heard of him" because he had quite a fan base before realesing Ocean Eyes last summer. So plently of people knew of him before.
Also, Death Cab isn't tps. Might be the same dude, but there are so many differcnes between the two bands. Just because Adam's friends would've listened to tps doesn't mean he would've. I've listened to music with my friends that I wouldn't listen to otherwise, artists such as Kesha So, yeah, people can sometimes listen to music with their friends that they don't really like/listen to.
Okay, for the Such Great Heights song, comparing it to Fireflies, they sound NOTHING alike, at all. The sounds, synth parts, are completly different. Please, you're so wrong.
"you can't deny that he is heavily influenced by Gibbard's work." Um, yeah you can. Because, he's not, at all. He even said so in this group chat on the fansite last may.

And, Yes, I am a very huge hard-core Adam Young fan, thank you very much.]]> Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:26:21 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from
As for Adam not listening to the Postal Service... well he has admitted to being more of a Death Cab fan (which is also by Ben Gibbard, dun dun dun) and "I had some friends in high school that would have it [Postal Service] playing in their cars and stuff." So yeah, even if he didn't "rip off" you can't deny that he is heavily influenced by Gibbard's work.

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Anyone who says he does is wrong, and that's not just my opoion, it's fact.

No, it is an opinion. Just as you think they sound nothing alike, some people think they sound exactly the same. Either you accept it and move one/keep enjoying your music or you can stay in denial all you want, blinded by your love. Trust me, I've been there and now overzealous fans just annoy me. Also, for the record, I'm not even a Postal Service or Death Cab fan :/]]> Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:52:18 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from DNBBB Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:15:31 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from 31kat Sorry... I felt the need to do this...

Belami - Adam Young DID NOT rip off the postal service, all those accousations stared TWO YEARS AFTER he started Owl City. So some noob said that without knowing anything. AND Adam's music is extremly different than the postal services', theirs (or whatever) is depressing/sad music. Owl City's music is much more happy and optimistic (and way better) ALSO Adam Young doesn't even listen to the postal service, you cannot rip off a band that you don't listen to. Basicly, he did not rip off the postal service. Anyone who says he does is wrong, and that's not just my opoion, it's fact.]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:48:18 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from superbatman Oh, thnx man!
]]> Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:50:19 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:06:48 GMT http://www.ytv.com/boards/topic163855-.aspx Message from superbatman I just listened to SleepyHead - Passon Pit and it was pretty good.

Of course I learned of them by watching LBP2 trailer (Btw, is anyone getting it? I already pre odered it)

So if anyone actually listens to Passon Pit can you give me feedback on their music, genre, so on and so forth

Thnx ]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:41:10 GMT